Real estate investors who are buying and holding long term and mid term rental homes should look at doing cost segregation to saving money on income taxes. I do a lot of studies for real estate investors across the country. We are doing a number of them these days for investors in the Upstate of South Carolina as well as in the state of North Carolina. Upstate CREIA and Carolinas Real Estate Investors Assocation are two outstanding investor associations.
If your property has a cost basis of around $200,000 or more and if you are planning to hold the property for at least another 3 years, it’s highly likely you will stand to benefit from doing a cost segregation study.
The costs will generally range from about $2,200 – $3,500 depending up the size and cost basis of your property and whether or not you’ll need to file an IRS Change of Accounting form 3115. The 3115 form is used to let the IRS know you’re moving from straight line to accelerated depreciation. It’s used all the time. In fact I think we draft about a 1,000 of these each year.
But if you own a property, you might end up saving $5,000 – $10,000 after paying for the cost of the study. This works if you’re profitable and having to pay taxes on your rental income, or if you are considered a full time real estate professional. If your expenses and standard depreciation already wipe out your income, then doing a cost segregation study probably doesn’t make sense to do.
I get asked to come in and present to commercial real estate brokers, financial advisory firms, CPA firms and occasionally a college might ask me to speak to their accounting students. The the folks who are consistently really interested in learning more about cost segregation are the CRE brokers…as well they should.
This is not only easy money but it’s a great value-add service that you can tell your clients about which in turn might lead to another deal. How so? Let’s say you help a buyer purchase a new building. As part of your due diligence, you get an estimate for cost segregation. It’s likely the owner is not familiar with cost segregation. You might end up saving that owner $30, $50, $100k+ on his/her taxes. It might even be enough that they want to buy another building with you. You can earn a referral fee on business you send our way. Of course it’s nowhere near what you earn with real estate commissions but it all helps at the end of the day. Telling your clients about cost segregation and getting them an estimate is a win-win-win for everybody.
I recorded a presentation that I recently used to help educate many commercial real estate brokers. It’s not meant to be an in-depth study of cost segregation but hopefully provides enough of an overview to help you understand the power of cost segregation and why you should have a trusted source to help you and your clients maximize their building’s cash flow while minimizing the taxes for the owner.
Presentation about Cost Segregation for Commercial Real Estate Brokers
If you’re looking for cost segregation services or studies in the Upstate of South Carolina, I can help. I’m based in Greenville and work with many building owners in Greenville, Spartanburg and Anderson to help them with their properties. We have saved owners a small fortune on their income taxes.
Our firm conducts an engineering-based cost segregation study that allows you as the owner to maximize the deductions you might have with your building(s) when it comes to depreciation. Reach out if you’d like a free, no-obligation estimate on what your income tax savings might be if you utilize cost segregation. We can do this on properties if they have been newly acquired as well as those that perhaps you’ve held for a number of years. Call me at 864-276-1448. John Murphy, CSSI.
Commercial building owners can use a cost segregation study results to eliminate or minimize their quarterly tax payments. These building owners can even just use an estimate or predictive analysis from a qualified cost segregation firm an apply that to the calculations for what their tax liability might be for their quarterlies.
As I write this today, the September 15th deadline is coming up late this week. As building owners and their CPAs make the final calculations for what the owner’s estimated tax bill might be, we can generate an estimate for that owner yet this week that would impact what that owner owes for his quarterly payment.
For example, let’s stay a business owner / building owner is expecting that he or she has to write a check to the IRS for $20,000 for his quarterly payment. This owner also owns a building that he has owned for a few years but has never done a cost segregation study. We can run an estimate this week and provide an idea what that owner might save on his taxes. Let’s say the estimate comes back and we believe he may save $30,000 on his income taxes if he applied it to this year’s tax return. If that’s the case, that $20,000 that he owes this week could stay in his checking account rather than being sent off to the IRS.
Please consult your own tax advisor. This post is not tax advice. Please reach out to me if you’d like for me to run an estimate on your building.
What kinds of properties are good for cost segregation? I get asked this a lot especially as I introduce the concept of cost segregation to commercial real estate brokers. The fact of the matter is, cost segregation works on any and all properties where the owner is receiving a rent or lease payment. With the firm I represent, we generally add one more qualifier and say that the basis or cost needs to be about $200,000 for it to make sense to study. And the reason for that is the minimum study will cost about $2,000 and if you have a $200,000 building – maybe an SFR – you might see a depreciation expense of $30,000 – $40,000. If you’re at the 24% income tax rate, that’s a tax savings of $7,200 or so. Sometimes we still do studies down to about $150,000 in cost basis and it’s still a benefit for the owner.
Cost segregation works on all kinds of property:
Industrial
Manufacturing
Warehouse
Office Warehouse
Self Storage
Cold Storage
Office
Retail Strip Centers
Strip Malls
Restaurants
Fast Food Restaurants
Auto Repair Shops
Hotels / Motels
Apartment Buildings
Rental property – SFRs, Condos, Townhouses
Short-term rentals – Aibnb, VRBO
Gyms, Athletic and Fitness Centers
Determining if cost segregation is right for you is a fairly straight forward endeavor. You will always want to consult with your tax advisor about your particular situation. It really just becomes a math issue. You get an estimate from me and then discuss with your tax advisor. Does it make economic sense or not. It’s also not as expensive as you might have been led to believe. For most of our clients it is not a big set back and they typically see 10-20x return on the investment with us. That’s 1,000 – 2,000% return on your investment. It’s generally a no-brainer.
Why doctors, dentists and lawyers should consider utilizing cost segregation with their real estate investments to save money on their income taxes.
I do a lot of work with doctors, dentists and lawyers when it comes to cost segregation. For nearly all of them, it’s a passive income investment. There are times though when they own the building(s) that they run their operating business out of – i.e. self rental. At that point they often can take advantage of “grouping.”In that case, cost segregation is a grand slam as they can use the depreciation from their real estate to offset their operating business income.It’s massive. Sometimes I run into situations where the doctor, dentist or lawyer or some other high income W-2 earner own a short-term rental like an Airbnb or VRBO and their spouse is running the operation. At that point they might also be able to utilize the depreciation generated from cost segregation to offset their high W-2 income. (BTW, as with all of these things…this is not tax advice. Please consult your own tax advisor regarding these strategies). I will publish information in a future blog post about high W-2 earners owning and operating short-term rentals.
But let’s get back to owning real estate as a passive income investment for these highly compensated professionals. If they own residential real estate investments (rental homes, duplexes, triplexes, quads, apartments etc) or if they own commercial real estate of any kind and IF they earn a profit at the end of the year, they will owe federal income taxes at their marginal rate. More often than not that rate is 32, 35, or 37%.
Let’s say they own a few buildings and when all is said and done, at the end of the year, they have a net profit of $10,000. They expect their investment to grow in future years if not through the purchase of additional units or buildings, then through rent growth. The $10,000 in net profit is after all expenses, debt service and normal straight line depreciation. If they pay taxes at a 35% rate, they would owe the IRS $3,500 for the year. Next year it would likely be more as their net profit grows. A cost segregation study would eliminate this $3,500 tax obligation for the year and would likely wipe out future income tax liabilities on their real estate investments for years to come. How could this be you ask? The magic of increased accumulated depreciation expense / i.e. bonus depreciation or accelerated depreciation creating a large loss carryforward.
Let’s say in the scenario above, one of the properties you own is a $500,000 duplex and the land is worth $100,000 which is not depreciable. So $400,000 is your cost / basis that can be depreciated. A cost segregation study will identify and separate the 5, 15 and 27.5 year property. Often this might be between 20-25% of the building cost or basis. Given that information, you will likely see an $80,000 – $100,000 depreciation expense. If you purchased the building and put it into service between Sept. 27, 2017 and Dec. 31, 2022, it qualifies for 100% bonus depreciation meaning you can take all of that $80-$100k in depreciation in one year. (At this point bonus depreciation starts to phase out – for buildings put into servince in 2023, they will qualify for 80% bonus depreciation…in 2024 it goes to 60% etc). So let’s say it’s $80,000 in depreciation. You had a $10,000 net profit and were going to owe $3,500 to the IRS that year and likely every year going forward. By doing the study, you would not have any taxes owed this year. You’d have a $70,000 loss carry forward which you would utilize in future years. In this scenario, you may have eliminated your tax liability for the next 6-7 years. A cost segregation study for a building like this might cost $3,500 or so. You might also have to file an IRS Change of Accounting Form 3115. (If you’ve owned the property for at least one tax year, you will have to file this form). The 3115 let’s the IRS know you’re going from straight line to accelerated depreciation. We draft those typically for about $750 and your tax advisor would sign off on it.
Let’s review…you have $4,250 into the study and 3115 draft. (You’ll probably have some additional fees from your tax advisor as they have to fill out the 3115 information document so we can draft that form). So maybe your tax advisor is going to charge you another $500. So you’re all in at about $4,750 +/-. That’s a business write off for you so it’s really costing you a net of $3,087.50 roughly. That’s less than what you were originally going to have to pay the IRS when we started. The $80,000 in depreciation expense that you’ll get, ends up saving you about $28,000 in federal income taxes ($80,000 x. .35). That’s a 9 to 1 return or 900% return on your investment. You likely wiped out your tax liability for years to come and you can use that money to reinvest, put in the bank, take a trip etc. It’s your money. You can do with it what you want.
If you’d like to learn more or get a quote for your building, please just reach out and I’d be happy to discuss. We alway recommend you also talk with your tax advisor. Once you get a quote from us, please have your tax professional review it to make sure they are on board and that you can in fact utilize the depreciation expense we generate with cost segregation.
Photo credit – Hotel Excelsior – Banker’s Suite on 2nd Level Above Alerus in downtown Excelsior, MN
We are working on a very cool and quite complicated but exciting project in Excelsior, MN. I also learned something new that I thought I’d share. And for the record, this study has not quite started yet. When we get this one done, I’ll have to come back and provide and update to see if it worked out as we think it might.
The picture above is now the newly remodeled short-term rental that sits over top the Alerus space in downtown Excelsior, MN which has also been completed renovated. Here a photo from the street out front so you can see that it’s commercial on the main level and residential or STR now above.
This is an existing building that has been in-service for many years. The owners purchased it a couple of years ago. The upstairs was a long term rental apartment. The main level has been and continues to be commercial use. The owners have spent a significant sum of money converting the long term apartement into a short term rental (aka Airbnb). I was wondering if perhaps the improvements to convert the LTR to an STR might be considered QIP (Qualified Improvement Property). QIP gets 15 year class life and would get 80% bonus depreciation in 2023. QIP is only for commercial property. STRs are considered commercial property – 39 year class life instead of 27.5 for LTRs. To get classified as QIP is a big swing in favor of of the building owner if this turns out to be the case.
We believe this will qualify as QIP because the building was in-service and the building would have had to have had 80% of the revenue coming in from the residential rental part of the building in order for this NOT to be classified as QIP. I was not aware of that little rule. It looks like it will be good news for these owners. (Note if you have a new mixed-use building like this that has not been put into service yet and you have commercial on the main and an STR above it would not quaify for QIP. The building has to have been put into service at some point to qualify as QIP).
If you have a mixed use building like this one where you have retail on the bottom and you want to convert long term rental space above it to a short term rental, we should talk about how cost segregation might be of help. In fact you might not even need us to do the analysis but many CPAs and tax pros will still have us do the calculations and reclassifications so that everything is done correctly, buttoned up and is ready to be met with scrutiny if needed. I’m here to help – anywhere in the U.S. 864-276-1448
Recently I received a call from someone inquiring as to whether or not Starbucks were good for cost segregation. Yes, they are excellent for cost segregation because they typically have large parking lots (15 year land improvements) and excellent interior finishing which a lot of that ends up being identified as 5 year class life property.
Here’s a good example. Let’s say this Starbucks was purchased for $2.5 million and the land was worth $500,000. Since the land cannot be depreciated, that must be deducted so we come up with a basis of $2,000,000 for the building. Every building is different but for the sake of understanding how cost segregation can help an owner of a Starbucks building let’s look at how this breaks down.
A cost segregation study is going to identify and reclassify all the building components as well as segregate the land improvements. So with this property, let’s stay 17% was identified at 5 year class life property. That would be $340,000. And for the land improvements, let’s say those come in at 20% which would be $400,000. So on a $2 million building, this owner could accelerated $740,000 or 37% of the building cost or basis. Depending upon the year in which this went into service, it could be taken as 100% bonus depreciation (Sept. 27, 2017 – Dec. 31, 2022). If the building went into service in 2023 then it would qualify for 80% bonus depreciation. (Bonus depreciation drops 20% each year until 2027 when it goes to zero or just regular accelerated depreciation).
If the owner is paying federal taxes at say a 35% rate, that would be a tax savings of almost $260,000 in income taxes. These studies would typically cost less than $6,000 which is an expense…so it’s a net of $3,900. That’s an ROI of about 66:1.
If you’d like to have us evaluate your property for cost segregation, please feel free to reach out and I’d be happy to discuss.
Recently we completed a cost segregation study for the owner of this retail strip center. I thought it might be helpful for you to see the kinds of results with this kind of asset. (Please note that every building is different and will see a different result…some will perform better than others depending on items like finishings and land improvements like parking lots and landscaping). The owner acquired the building in April 2022. For cost segregation, we deduct the value of the land to come up with the basis or the cost of the building. The basis was $1,125,000. The owner had also spent $125,000 on tenant improvements (TI) which were all interior improvements. Because he had purchased the building in April 2022, he would have had a depreciation expense of $18,750. That is straight line depreciation at 39 years. He also could have taken the $125,000 as a depreciation expense without our help as those tenant improvements are considered Qualified Improvement Property (QIP) which has a 15 year class life. Remember in 2022, we had 100% bonus depreciation for any class life under 20 years so the TI’s could be take at 100% depreciation expense. So he could have potentially had a total depreciation expense in 2022 of $143,750. But he ended up with a significantly larger depreciation expense since he did a cost segregation study. The results were as follows:
Basis: $1,125,000
5 Year: $62,247.71 / 5.5%
15 Year: $124,021.77 / 11.0%
39 Year: $938,730.52 / 83.5%
In 2022, any class life under 20 years can be taken as 100% bonus depreciation meaning you can depreciate the entire asset in year one rather than waiting 5 or 15 years. (Starting in 2023, bonus depreciation goes to 80% and then drops 20% each of the following years until it’s zeroed out in 2027 unless Congress changes the law). In this owner’s case, he was able to accelerate or fully depreciate $186,269.48 in year one because of the cost segregation. That combined with the QIP provides a depreciation expense of $311,555.14 in year one. At a 32% tax rate this would equate to a potential tax savings of $100,000. A study like this generally costs less than $5,500-$6,000. It takes 6-8 weeks to complete and the owner and his/her CPA get a complete breakdown in an easy to use format to apply to the owner’ taxes.
Below is the cost detail on this retail strip center.
Property and casualty insurance agents and brokers could offer even greater value and service to their commercial lines clients if they offered cost segregation services.
P&C agents and brokers are talking with commercial building owners on a regular basis about their insurance needs. Inevitably their client base owns commercial buildings and perhaps some multi-family, short-term rentals and rental homes. It’s an easy conversation to have with a business owner whom you know owns a building because you are either insuring it or you are hoping to win his business and insure it going forward. As part of that conversation, why not ask, “BTW, have you done cost segregation on your building for tax savings?” That’s it. If they have done it, great, but if the response is like what I find about 8 out of 10 times the owner hasn’t and he knows little to nothing about it. It’s then just a matter of, we’ll have our guy run an estimate for you and you can then run it past your tax advisor to see if this might be something you can utlize. On average, building owners save between $30,000 – $70,000 per $1 million in basis or building costs.
You can then reach out to me with the specifics on the building because you likely have it in your database already. Many times I can look up most buildings, but we need the following:
Address
Building type
Date of Purchase or In-Service Date
Purchase Price
Land Value (est)
Improvements – year / type
Within a day or two, we will turn around a custom estimate for this owner to save on his/her income taxes. Many times the building owners will see a return something in the neighborhood of 10x what they will invest in the study. Meaning, let’s say the study costs $5,000. The owner’s tax rate is 32%. His net cost after tax would be $3,400. If he saves $50,000 on his income taxes, that’s an ROI of 14:1 or 1,400% return on his investment in the study.
As a property and casualty insurance agent or broker, we’ll do a revenue share of 10% on our study fees. That $5,000 study will generate $500 for your agency. This would likely be for a $1-$1.5MM building. Smaller buildings have smaller fees. Bigger buildings would have bigger fees. How many buildings does your agency insure? If my experience is that about 8 out of 10 are unware of this tax application, don’t you see how you could be a big help to these building owners to help them save on taxes, increase cash flow and maybe help them stay in business?
Lastly, I have heard that insurance premiums for commercial lines have gone up 15-25% in the past year. What if you had a solution to help that business owner when you call him to discuss his renewal for the upcoming year and you’re concerned about possibly losing a client because his rates are going to jump by thousands of dollars. Well, this might be a solution. He might have a building or two that he has not done a cost segregation study on that might generate lots of tax savings which could afford him the cash flow to more easily pay for the increased insurance premium.
And when your agents are on the phone prospecting talking about insurance, this is a another way to try to engage the building owner. Who knows…maybe he’s not ready to buy insurance from you just yet but he does cost segregation because you introduced it to him. Perhaps that will engender some favortism toward you when he does go to re-evaluate or renew his insurance coverages in the coming year.
Cost segregation is a terrific value-add service for property and casualty agents and brokers. It’s a great way to help your clients and to differentiate yourself from the competition. On top of that, it’s an additional revenue opportunity for the agent and agency. Reach out if you’d like to discuss. I work all across the U.S. in all 50 states. One does not need to be licensed to offer cost segregation. John Murphy 864-276-1448.
The views expressed are my own. I do not speak or write in any official capacity for the firm I represent for cost segregation – Cost Segregation Services, Inc.
